Kachin Education Centre

ဗမာတိုင္းရင္းသားႀကီးစိုးတဲ့ ဗမာ႔တပ္မေတာ္၊ ဗမာအစိုးရ ကို သက္ဆိုးရွည္ေအာင္ လုပ္ေနေသာ သူမ်ားတြင္ ဗမာတုိင္းရင္းသားမ်ား မပါ၀င္ပါ။ အဘယ္႔ေၾကာင့္ဆိုေသာ္ ဗမာတုိင္းရင္းသားမ်ားလည္း ဗမာအစိုးရ ၏ လုပ္ရပ္ေတြေၾကာင့္ ဒုကၡပင္လယ္ ထဲမွာနစ္ေနတာပါ။

တကယ္ ဗမာအစိုးရ ႏွင့္ ဗမာအစိုးရ စစ္တပ္ ကို သက္ဆိုးရွည္ေအာင္ လုပ္ေနသူေတြသည္ တုိင္းရင္းသား လက္နက္ကိုင္ အဖဲြ႔အစည္းမ်ား သာလွ်င္ျဖစ္ပါသည္။ ဘာေၾကာင့္လည္းဆိုေတာ႔ အကယ္၍သာ ဗမာအစိုးရ တပ္ကို တကယ္ ျဖဳတ္ခ်လိုရင္ တိုင္းရင္းသားလက္နက္ ကိုင္အဖဲြ႔အစည္းအားလုံး စည္းစည္းလုံးလုံး နဲ႔တုိက္ၾကမယ္ဆိုရင္ ျမန္မာႏုိင္ငံသားမ်ား အဓိကလိုလား ေတာင့္တေနတဲ့ စစ္မွန္တဲ့ ျပည္ေထာင္စု ဒီမုိကေရစီ ႏုိင္ငံေတာ္ ႀကီးကို တည္ေဆာက္ ႏုိင္တာ ၾကာလွ ၿပီ။

အခုေတာ့ တဖဲြ႔ႏွင့္တဖဲြ႔ လည္း ညီညြတ္မႈ မရွိပဲ တေယာက္တေပါက္ လုပ္ခ်င္ရာလုပ္ေနၾကတယ္။ ဥပမာ - သစ္ခုတ္ေရာင္း၊ ေရႊေမာ္၊ ေက်ာက္စိမ္းေမာ္ က အခြန္ေတြေကာက္စား၊ ကိုယ့္အိတ္ေထာင္ထဲထည္႔ ၿပီး ႀကီးပြားခ်မ္းသာေနၾကတာ။ ေနာက္ဆုံးေတာ့လည္း ဘာမွ တိတ္မထူးျခားၾကပါဘူး။ ေခါင္းေဆာင္ေတြက ႀကီးပြားတယ္၊ တပည့္ေတြက နာၾကတယ္။

ထုိ႔ေၾကာင့္ တုိင္းရင္းသား လက္နက္ကိုင္ အဖဲြ႔အစည္းအားလုံး သည္ အမွန္တယ္မိမိလူမ်ဳိး၊ မိမိတိုင္းျပည္အတြက္ အလုပ္လုပ္ေန ေၾကာင္းကို လက္ေတြ႔ ျပသ လုိလွ်င္ အားလုံးစည္းစည္းလုံးလုံး ရွိၾကၿပီး ဗမာအစိုးရ စစ္ကိုတိုက္ခိုက္ၾကပါ။

ႏုိင္ငံေရးေဆြးေႏြးပဲြ ကေနၿပီး လိုလားေတာင့္တေနတဲ့ အခြင့္အေရးေတြကို ေတာင္းဆိုမယ္ ဆိုရင္လည္း စစ္ေရး၊ ႏုိင္ငံေရး အသာစီး ရ မွ ေျပာအား ရွိမွာျဖစ္တယ္။

အားလုံးက မစည္းလုံးႏုိင္ၾကဘူး ဆိုရင္ လည္း လက္နက္ခ် ၿပီး အညံ့ခံၾကပါ။ လက္နက္ကိုင္ သူပုန္ ေတြ မရွိေတာ့ရင္ ဗမာအစိုးရ စစ္တပ္ အေနနဲ႔ ႏုိင္ငံေရးမွာ ပါ၀င္ေနစရာ အေၾကာင္းနည္းလာလိမ့္မယ္။ ဒီမိုကေရစီ အျမန္ထြန္းကားလာမွာ ျဖစ္ပါတယ္။

သုိ႔မဟုတ္ရင္ - လက္နက္ကိုင္ သူပုန္ေခါင္းေဆာင္မ်ား၊ အစိုးရ ေခါင္းေဆာင္မ်ား ႏွင့္ သူတို႔၏ေဆြမ်ဳိးမ်ား သာ အမ်ားပုိင္ျဖစ္တဲ့ ႏုိင္ငံ ေတာ္၏ ေျမေပၚ၊ ေျမေအာက္ တံယံစာတ မ်ားကို ထုတ္ယူ စားသုံးျခင္းျဖင့္ ဆက္လက္၍ ႀကီးပြားေနၾက အုန္းမွာပါ။ အမ်ားျပည္ေတြက ေတာ့ ဒုကၡ ပင္လယ္နက္ႀကီးထဲမွာ ဆက္လက္ၿပီး နစ္မြန္းေနၾကမွာ မုခ်ပါ။

အမ်ားျပည္သူ၏အက်ဳိးကိုေမွ်ာ္၍ ----

ကိုခြ်န္

By Zung Ring,

Once upon a time, in a village, there were egotistical brothers. They respected no one. They were afraid of no one. They were ashamed of no one. Basically they didn’t care anyone.

There was also a pitiful orphan in the village. He grew up under the care of his grandfather. They were so poor. They lived in a small tent outskirt of the village. The poor child faced the arrogant brothers’ bully on daily basis.

One day, the villagers were to clear bushes along roads. Collective labors were required. But on that day, the orphan could not go. So, he gave a pork leg for lunch to villagers who came to provide their labors for his absence. However, the brothers threw the pork leg to sidewalk instead of making it lunch. In the evening, the poor child became the subject of ridicule to the brothers and returned the pork leg saying that the pork leg didn’t do anything just sitting on sidewalk the whole day. The pork was now dirty with dirt and the poor child was in the state of embarrassment and intimidation from the superior brothers and hesitated whether to take the pork back or not.

Not long after that, the brothers invited the orphan to a trip for trapping birds. The poor child agreed to join. When they arrived in forest, they spotted a big banyan tree with full of fruits which draw all kinds of birds and herbivores. The brothers immediately monopolized the whole tree. They laid their traps on all of the branches giving no opportunity to the poor child. The lonely child was left with no good option so he just disappointedly laid his traps beneath the tree.

On the next morning, the brothers got up early and returned to forest to check their traps before the orphan did. As they approached to the site, a deer was caught in the orphan’s trap that greatly disturbed the brothers. In their traps however, only a hornbill was caught. They now decided to switch the preys out of jealousy before the poor child arrive. When the poor child arrived, he was very shocked by very unusual scene - a deer was hung in the air while a hornbill was caught in his trap on the ground.

The poor child knew that the brothers have exchanged the preys and felt being bullied. He demanded to give him the deer back. The arrogant brothers laughed at him saying “don’t you see that the deer was caught in our trap? It is ours. We can’t give it to you.” The lonely child argued with them but he was overwhelmed by the brothers. Finally, the poor child proposed to bring their case to the village council and to let the council decide. The brothers were delighted by the proposal because they believed that the council would decide in their favor for they know all of elders. All the village elders have received gifts from the brothers at least once.

For the judging day in the council, there was no shortage of supporters for the brothers since they were powerful and wealthy. On the other hand, it was already challenging enough for the unfortunate orphan to find even a supporter. But he eventually managed to find a very old man in the outskirt of the village who seemed willing to support the child. No one noticed his existence in the village because he was also poor and a man of few words but was wise. The boy told him the whole story and requested him to support him in the council on ruling day. The wise man agreed.

The day had come. Now, the proud brothers and their supporters were waiting for the poor boy in the village council. As expected the council was filled with the brothers’ supporters. Everyone was trying to mock the deprived boy. Time was running late yet the boy has not arrived. Some of the elders began to get angry and proposed to declare the brothers winners in the absence of the poor boy. However, the brothers insisted to wait for the boy because they wanted to humiliate him in front of the whole villagers in the council.

At the same time, the unfortunate boy went to the old wise man’s home and was waiting for him the whole morning. The wise man did not say anything whether he changed his mind or not. The little boy was timid and dared not to push him or told it’s getting late. So, he chose to wait for the wise man until he’s ready. About at noon time, the wise man said to the boy, “Now let’s go”. The boy was of course delighted for he was worried the whole morning. The wise man deliberately chose to be late for the council for his strategic purpose.

As the wise man and poor boy were arriving to the council, they were ridiculed by the brothers’ supporters. Inside the council, the elders (councilors) also condemned the twos for being late. As the meeting proceeded, one of the elders provocatively asked the old man, “You are old but you seemed don’t know our tradition that we solved such kind of case in the morning? Why you came so late?” The old man replied wisely as the following.

“Honorable councilors, I am sorry for being late. Please receive my sincere apology. I know that we have a unique custom of judging cases like this one in the morning. I have no intention to ruin our beautiful tradition. However, I was late for good reason. On my way the council, I have crossed a river. As I was crossing, I saw wild fire on sand bank. Thus, I collected water with my bamboo basket to extinguish the fire. That’s why I was late.”

The old man was immediately booed. The councilors ridiculed him by saying how foolish is it for you to say that there was wild fire on sand bank and collect water with bamboo basket to extinguish the fire. The old man paused and gently replied.

“Honorable councilors, yes you are absolutely right about that. It is foolish to believe that there is wild fire on sand bank and collect water with bamboo basket to extinguish fire. Don’t you also think that it is foolish to believe that deer which has no wings was caught in the trap which was laid up in the air? And hornbill which doesn’t live on the ground was actually caught in the trap laid on the ground?”

The whole council was dead silence. After the brief silence, an audience from a corner broke the silence with claps. The silence was soon replaced with tumultuous standing ovation. The councilors and brothers now blushed at their own arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.

Without further arguments, the council delivered its just verdict that the poor orphan was the winner and deer was also returned.

The dishonest brothers left the council with great disappointment and embarrassment while the poor boy left with victorious joy.

Moral Lesson:

Justice prevails.

By Wunpawng, 5th February 2010.

By MIN LWIN , Wednesday, February 4, 2009

ထုိင္း၊ ျမန္မာနယ္စပ္ေဒသ ဒုကၡသည္စခန္းမွာ ရွိေနတဲ့ ျမန္မာျပည္က ဒုကၡသည္ေတြ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံကုိ ေခၚယူေရး အစီအစဥ္ရဲ႕ ပထမ ေျခလွမ္းအျဖစ္နဲ႔ ဂ်ပန္ကုိယ္စားလွယ္ အဖြဲ႕ဟာ ဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ လူေတြ႕ သြားေရာက္ေတြ႕ဆုံ ေမးျမန္းခဲ့ပါတယ္။ ဂ်ပန္ကုိယ္စားလွယ္ အဖြဲ႕ဟာ ဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ လူေတြ႕ စစ္ေဆးေမးျမန္းမႈေတြကို ေဖေဖာ္၀ါရီလ ၂ ရက္ေန႔ကစၿပီး ျပဳလုပ္ခဲ့တယ္လုိ႔ ဆုိပါတယ္။ အျပည့္အစုံကုိ ဆက္သြယ္စုံစမ္းထားတဲ့ ကုိေဇာ္၀င္းလႈိင္က တင္ျပေပးထားပါတယ္။

ျမန္မာႏုိင္ငံက ဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံမွာ ျပန္လည္ ေနရာခ်ထားေပးမယ္ဆုိတဲ့ ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရရဲ႕ ပထမအဆင့္အျဖစ္နဲ႔ ထုိင္း၊ ျမန္မာနယ္စပ္ မယ္လ ဒုကၡသည္စခန္းမွာ ရွိတဲ့ ဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရ ကုိယ္စားလွယ္ေတြက မေန႔ အဂၤါေန႔ကစၿပီး လူေတြ႕ စစ္ေဆးမႈေတြ စတင္ျပဳလုပ္ေနၿပီ ျဖစ္ပါတယ္။

ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရ ကုိယ္စားလွယ္အဖြဲ႕ဟာ ေဖေဖာ္၀ါရီလ ၁ ရက္၊ တနလၤာေန႔ကတည္းက မယ္လစခန္းထဲကုိ ေရာက္ေနခဲ့ၾကတာလုိ႔ မယ္လစခန္းရဲ႕ ဒုတိယဥကၠ႒ မန္းထြန္းထြန္းက ေျပာပါတယ္။

“သူတုိ႔ ၁ ရက္ေန႔၊ တနလၤာေန႔ကတည္းက စခန္းမွာ က်ေနာ္တို႔ ေကာ္မတီေတြရယ္၊ သက္ဆုိင္ရာ ထုိင္းအာဏာပုိင္ေတြရယ္ လာေတြ႕ပါတယ္။ ညေနပုိင္းက်ေတာ့ သူတို႔ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံကို ေလွ်ာက္တဲ့လူေတြနဲ႔ ေတြ႕ဆုံခဲ့တယ္။ သူတုိ႔ရဲ႕ အစီအစဥ္က ၂ ရက္ေန႔ကေန ၅ ရက္ေန႔အထိ ဂ်ပန္ကို တင္ထားတဲ့ မိသားစုေတြကုိ အင္တာဗ်ဴးလုပ္မယ္၊ ဂ်ပန္အစိုးရက။ ဂ်ပန္အစိုးရအဖြဲ႕မွာ ဆုိရင္ေတာ့ တရားေရး ၀န္ႀကီးဌာန (Ministry of Justice) က ၆ ေယာက္၊ ၇ ေယာက္ေလာက္ ပါမယ္။ ၿပီးေတာ့ Ministry of Foreign Affairs က ၃ ေယာက္ေလာက္ ပါတယ္။ အားလုံး ၁၀ ေယာက္ေလာက္ ပါတယ္။”

ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရအေနနဲ႔ ထုိင္း၊ ျမန္မာ နယ္စပ္ေဒသက ဒုကၡသည္ စခန္းထဲမွာ ရွိေနတဲ့ ျမန္မာဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ ဒီႏွစ္ ၂၀၁၀ ခုႏွစ္ကစၿပီး တႏွစ္ အေယာက္ ၃၀ ႏႈန္းနဲ႔ ၃ ႏွစ္ဆက္တုိက္ ေခၚယူ ျပန္လည္ ေနရာခ်ထားလုိတဲ့ အေၾကာင္း ၿပီးခဲ့တဲ့ႏွစ္ ႏုိ၀င္ဘာလထဲမွာ UNHCR ကုလသမဂၢ ဒုကၡသည္မ်ားဆုိင္ရာ မဟာမင္းႀကီး႐ုံးကုိ အေၾကာင္းၾကားခဲ့တယ္လုိ႔ ဆုိပါတယ္။ အဲဒီအထဲကမွ ပထမအသုတ္အျဖစ္နဲ႔ လူ ၃၀ ကုိ စတင္ေခၚယူဖုိ႔ အခုလုိ လာေတြ႕တာ ျဖစ္တဲ့အေၾကာင္း မန္းထြန္းထြန္းက ဆက္ေျပာျပပါတယ္။

“ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံက ပထမအသုတ္ အေနနဲ႔ လူ အေယာက္ ၃၀ ေခၚမယ္။ အဲဒီအတြက္ စိတ္၀င္စားတဲ့ လူေတြ တင္ၾကပါေပါ့။ အဓိက အေၾကာင္းရင္းကေတာ့ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံက အာရွႏုိင္ငံ တႏုိင္ငံလည္း ျဖစ္တယ္။ ၿပီးေတာ့ ႀကိဳတင္ ျပင္ဆင္ထားတဲ့ ဟာေတြလည္း ေတာ္ေတာ္ေကာင္းပါတယ္၊ က်ေနာ္ သိရသေလာက္ဆုိရင္။ သူတို႔အစီအစဥ္ကေတာ့ ဒီ ၄ ရက္အတြင္းမွာ မိသားစု၀င္ေတြကို အင္တာဗ်ဴးလုပ္ဖုိ႔ စီစဥ္ထားတယ္။”

ဒီဒုကၡသည္ေတြ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံကုိ ေရာက္သြားရင္ ပထမ ၆ လအထိ ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရက ၾကည့္႐ႈေစာင့္ေရွာက္ထားမွာ ျဖစ္ပါတယ္။ အဲဒီ သတ္မွတ္ထားတဲ့ ကာလ ေက်ာ္သြားရင္ေတာ့ ကုိယ့္ေျခေထာက္ေပၚ ကုိယ္ရပ္တည္ႏုိင္ဖုိ႔ အလုပ္အကုိင္ ရွာေဖြၾကရမွာ ျဖစ္ေပမဲ့ သက္ဆုိင္ရာ လူမႈအဖြဲ႕အစည္းေတြက စုစုေပါင္း တႏွစ္ခြဲေလာက္ အထိေတာ့ အတုိင္းအတာ တခုထိ အကူအညီေတြ ဆက္ေပးေနဦးမွာ ျဖစ္တယ္လုိ႔ ဆုိပါတယ္။

“က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ သိရသေလာက္ကေတာ့ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံ ေရာက္သြားရင္ ၆ လက အစိုးရက အျပည့္အ၀ ကူညီ ေထာက္ပံ့ေပးသြားမယ္။ ၆ လေက်ာ္သြားရင္ေတာ့ မိသားစု၀င္ေတြက သူတုိ႔ဘာသာ သူတို႔ ေျခေထာက္ေပၚ ရပ္တည္ဖို႔အတြက္ အလုပ္ေတြ ရွာရေတာ့မယ္။ ကုိယ့္ရဲ႕ အိမ္ေတြဘာေတြ ရွာရေတာ့မယ္။ အဲဒီမွာ ေနာက္ထပ္ ၁ ႏွစ္နဲ႔ ၆ လ အတြင္းမွာေတာ့ သူတို႔ လူမႈကူညီေစာင့္ေရွာက္ေရး အဖဲြ႕အစည္းေတြက သူတို႔ကုိ အႀကံဉာဏ္ေတြ ေပးသြားမယ္၊ အကူအညီေတြေပါ့၊ အလုပ္အကုိင္ ရွာဖို႔ျဖစ္ျဖစ္၊ တကယ္လို႔ အလုပ္အကုိင္ ရွာလုိ႔ မရဘူး၊ အခက္အခဲေတြ ရွိမယ္ဆုိရင္ Social Welfare Program ေပါ့၊ အစုိးရက ေထာက္ပံ့ထားတဲ့ Social Welfare Program ေတြမွာ သူတုိ႔ကုိ ကူညီေထာက္ပံ့ ေပးႏုိင္ေအာင္ဆုိၿပီး သူတုိ႔က ၀ုိင္း၀န္း ကူညီမႈေတြေတာ့ ရွိမယ္ေလ။ ၁ ႏွစ္နဲ႔ ၆ လတိတိေပါ့။”

ဒုကၡသည္ေတြထဲက ဘယ္သူ႔ကို ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံလာဖုိ႔ လက္ခံမယ္ဆုိတဲ့ ေနာက္ဆုံး ဆုံးျဖတ္ခ်က္ကေတာ့ ဂ်ပန္အစုိးရ အေပၚမွာပဲ မူတည္တယ္လုိ႔ UNHCR ေျပာခြင့္ရပုဂၢဳိလ္ အန္ဒေရ မာေဟျခစ္စ္ (Andrej Mahecic) က ေျပာပါတယ္။

“တကယ္လုိ႔ အားလုံး အဆင္ေျပ ေခ်ာေမြ႕သြားရင္ေတာ့ ဒုကၡသည္ေတြ အေနနဲ႔ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံကုိ ဒီႏွစ္ စက္တင္ဘာလေလာက္မွာ စတင္ ထြက္ခြာႏုိင္ၾကမွာျဖစ္ၿပီး တႏွစ္မွာ အေယာက္ ၃၀ စီ ေခၚယူသြားမွာ ျဖစ္ပါတယ္။ ထုိင္းႏုိင္ငံအတြင္းမွာ ရွိေနတဲ့ ျမန္မာ ဒုကၡသည္စခန္း ၉ ခုထဲက ဒုကၡသည္ စုစုေပါင္း ၅၅,၀၀၀ ေလာက္ထဲက ၂၀,၀၀၀ ေလာက္ကုိ တျခားႏုိင္ငံေတြမွာ ျပန္လည္ ေနရာခ်ထား ေပးႏုိင္ခဲ့ပါၿပီ။ ဒီအထဲက အမ်ားစုကေတာ့ အေမရိကန္၊ ၾသစေၾတးလ်နဲ႔ ကေနဒါႏုိင္ငံေတြကုိ ေရာက္သြားၾကတာ ျဖစ္ေပမဲ့ တျခား ႏုိင္ငံေပါင္း ၈ ႏုိင္ငံကုိ ေရာက္သြားၾကတဲ့ ဒုကၡသည္ တခ်ဳိ႕လည္း ရွိပါတယ္။”

ျမန္မာႏုိင္ငံက ဒုကၡသည္ေတြကုိ အာရွႏုိင္ငံတခုက ျပန္လည္ ေနရာခ်ထားေပးဖုိ႔ ေခၚယူတာ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံဟာ ပထမဆုံးႏုိင္ငံ ျဖစ္ပါတယ္။ ဒါေၾကာင့္လည္း တျခား အေနာက္ႏုိင္ငံေတြအျပင္ အခုလုိ အာရွတုိက္အတြင္းက ႏုိင္ငံတခု တုိးလာတဲ့အေပၚ UNHCR အေနနဲ႔ ႀကိဳဆုိေၾကာင္း ေျပာခြင့္ရပုဂၢဳိလ္ အန္ဒေရ မာေဟျခစ္စ္က ေျပာပါတယ္။

“ဒုကၡသည္ေတြ ျပန္လည္ ေနရာခ်ထားေပးတဲ့ ႏုိင္ငံေတြ စာရင္းမွာ ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံတႏုိင္ငံ တုိးလာတာကုိ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ UNHCR အေနနဲ႔ ႀကိဳဆုိပါတယ္။ ဒီလုိ လုပ္ေဆာင္တဲ့အတြက္ တျခား အာရွႏုိင္ငံေတြကုိ အေရးပါတဲ့ အခ်က္ေပးလုိက္႐ုံတင္ မကဘဲ ထုိင္းႏုိင္ငံထဲမွာ ႏွစ္ေပါင္း ၂၅ ႏွစ္ေလာက္ ပိတ္မိေနၾကတဲ့ ဒုကၡသည္ေတြ ျပႆနာ ကူညီေျဖရွင္းေပးဖုိ႔လည္း ထုိင္းအစုိးရကုိ တဘက္က ကူညီရာ ေရာက္ေနလုိ႔ပါပဲ။”

ထုိင္း၊ ျမန္မာ နယ္စပ္ေဒသက ဒုကၡသည္စခန္းေတြမွာ ရွိေနၾကတဲ့ ဒုကၡသည္တခ်ဳိ႕ဟာ စခန္းထဲမွာ ႏွစ္ေပါင္းမ်ားစြာ ဒုကၡသည္အျဖစ္နဲ႔ ေနထုိင္ေနၾကရတာ ျဖစ္ၿပီး တခ်ဳိ႕ဆုိ ႏွစ္ေပါင္း ၃၀ ေလာက္အထိ ေနထုိင္ခဲ့ၿပီး ျဖစ္တယ္လုိ႔ ဆုိပါတယ္။

အခု ဂ်ပန္ႏုိင္ငံက ေခၚယူမယ့္ မယ္လ ဒုကၡသည္စခန္းက ဒုကၡသည္ေတြအေနနဲ႔ လယ္ယာစုိက္ပ်ဳိးမႈ တတ္ကၽြမ္းသူ၊ အသက္ ၄၀ ေအာက္ေတြနဲ႔ ကရင္လူမ်ဳိးေတြကုိသာ ေခၚယူမယ္လုိ႔ ဂ်ပန္ကုိယ္စားလွယ္အဖြဲ႕က ေျပာတဲ့အေၾကာင္း လူေတြ႕စစ္ေဆး ေမးျမန္းမႈမွာ ပါ၀င္ခဲ့ၾကတဲ့ ဒုကၡသည္တခ်ဳိ႕က ေျပာပါတယ္။